"I'm not saying that the people in need of these services are rabid racoons... what I'm saying is that we are not Elf" - Mitch Guthrie

Ever wish you could listen in as Cole and I preach at each other about Gather's provided services all the while using terrible animal analogies while Allyson tells us from the back of the room that we need to keep all this in the final cut? Well, there's that and more in this sprawling interview about all sorts of things.

Special thanks to:
Cole Meckle for sharing
Gather Church for the use of their facilities
Allyson Arras for assisting